"pip bip - choose Corrour" (hhgttg69)
02/16/2020 at 20:38 • Filed to: Holden, dead
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"pip bip - choose Corrour" (hhgttg69)
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No more Holden after 2021
More to come!
facw
> pip bip - choose Corrour
02/16/2020 at 20:53 |
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An article: Holden axed in Australia as General Motors gets out of right-hand-drive globally
Honestly, this seems a bit silly. It really doesn’t feel like developing right-hand drive vehicles should be a significant incremental cost over the left-hand vehicle, especially as drive-by-wire becomes more viable.
Now whether it makes sense to keep the Holden nameplate is a different story, even if GM did want to keep selling in Australia, it might be better to sell Chevys or Buicks instead of having dedicated branding for a relatively small market .
CB
> pip bip - choose Corrour
02/16/2020 at 20:54 |
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Actually, there’s no more to come. That’s the point.
For Sweden
> facw
02/16/2020 at 20:55 |
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Wait what
Is Supercars dead after this season?
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pip bip - choose Corrour
> CB
02/16/2020 at 20:58 |
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Lol
Technically you are correct
ranwhenparked
> pip bip - choose Corrour
02/16/2020 at 21:01 |
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If constantly shrinking yourself was the key to long term success, Sears would be worth more than Amazon.
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pip bip - choose Corrour
> For Sweden
02/16/2020 at 21:05 |
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No idea
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facw
> For Sweden
02/16/2020 at 21:05 |
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I guess that depends on how much people want to see a handful of Fords going around? Certainly those Holdens won’t be well supported. I’d assume they try to make it easier for other manufacturers to get back in, but who knows.
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pip bip - choose Corrour
> facw
02/16/2020 at 21:06 |
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Gmsv (formerly hsv) will import and convert to rhd pick ups and sell the corvette too
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pip bip - choose Corrour
> ranwhenparked
02/16/2020 at 21:10 |
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Blockbuster would be the most valuable then
ttyymmnn
> pip bip - choose Corrour
02/16/2020 at 21:17 |
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TheTurbochargedSquirrel
> For Sweden
02/16/2020 at 21:19 |
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There was talk of Holden switching to the Camaro body once the Supercars chassis became more flattering to coupe bodystyles. Is the Camaro dead down there too now? HSV had been converting them and bringing them to Australia.
SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media
> pip bip - choose Corrour
02/16/2020 at 21:22 |
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That happened even faster than you or I expected...
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facw
> pip bip - choose Corrour
02/16/2020 at 21:25 |
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They live!
https://goo.gl/maps/WZh5gp8hNgNQAgBk9
Perhaps relevant to this post, the second to last store was in Australia: The last Blockbuster in America is now the last in the world
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SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media
> For Sweden
02/16/2020 at 21:27 |
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No. Ford still has Mustang and GMSV will have Camaro...and even if that goes tits up there's still the BTCC...
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pip bip - choose Corrour
> SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media
02/16/2020 at 21:32 |
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Yes it did
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SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media
> ranwhenparked
02/16/2020 at 21:33 |
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General Malaise Inc.
someassemblyrequired
> pip bip - choose Corrour
02/16/2020 at 21:37 |
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Unbelievable, 2020 GM is trash - they’ll soon regret
bailing on Europe and killing Holden.
Hope your shop will be OK and you have a few other brands to sell .
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SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media
> facw
02/16/2020 at 21:38 |
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It’s not. Unfortunately, GM doesn’t generally make cars and SUVs that non-Americans are interested in and they aren’t interested in exporting their trucks.
So if they won’t or can’t supply their non core (ie not American or Chinese) markets with what these markets would like to buy then they are sensible to not even try...
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SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media
> pip bip - choose Corrour
02/16/2020 at 21:40 |
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One wonders what might happen now with the AC Delco parts distribution business...
BahamaTodd
> pip bip - choose Corrour
02/16/2020 at 21:42 |
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https://www.facebook.com/holdenaustralia/posts/10157868279124898[/url]
With a heavy heart, Holden announced today that General Motors will be retiring the Holden brand in Australia and New Zealand. This announcement will be felt deeply by the entire Holden family, our customers and our fans.
Holden will continue to support customers in the following ways:
- Honour all existing warranties and guarantees
- Honour all free scheduled servicing offers
- Ongoing call centre support
- Provide servicing and spare parts for at least 10 years, through national aftersales networks in Australia and New Zealand
We understand the impact of this decision on our customers, our people, our Dealers and our partners. Today is a sad day for the Holden family. We are committed to a transition that lives up to Holden’s proud history.[/QUOTE]
A full statement with Q&As can be found here:
General Motors will be retiring the Holden brand in Australia and New Zealand.
HOLDEN · SUNDAY, FEBRUARY 16, 2020
We encourage our followers and customers to please read the following statement.
With a heavy heart, Holden announced today that General Motors will be retiring the Holden brand in Australia and New Zealand. This announcement will be felt deeply by the entire Holden family, our customers and our fans.
We will immediately begin working with our dealer partners across Australia and New Zealand to implement an orderly transition, including support for our existing customers.
Holden will continue to support customers in the following ways:
-Honour all existing warranties and guarantees
-Honour all free scheduled servicing offers
-Ongoing call centre support
-Provide servicing and spare parts for at least 10 years, through national aftersales networks in Australia and New Zealand
-Recalls or safety-related issues if they arise
GM has taken this difficult decision after an exhaustive analysis of the investment required for Holden to be competitive for the long term in Australia’s and New Zealand’s new car markets. Regrettably, this assessment determined such an investment could not meet GM’s investment thresholds, including delivering an appropriate return.
Factors weighing against further investment in Holden included: the highly fragmented right-hand-drive domestic markets; the economics to support growing the brand; and delivering an appropriate return on investment.
More broadly is the issue of scale. The global consolidation of the automotive industry has made it increasingly challenging to support a brand and a business that operates in only two markets, which represent less than one per cent of the global industry.
This decision has not been taken lightly, especially considering the iconic status of the Holden brand and the contribution it has made not only to GM, but to the development of the economies of Australia and New Zealand.
It impacts all aspects of the Holden business, including the wind-down of the National Sales Company, GM Holden Engineering, GM Design Australia, Holden Financial Services and Maven Australia.
We are commencing work with our dealer partners on timing to cease sales of new vehicles, as well as transitioning dealerships to authorised service outlets.
Customer Questions
Where can I get my Holden serviced?
Holden will establish a national aftersales network to support existing customers for at least the next 10 years. All current Holden dealers will be offered the opportunity to transition to Holden authorised service outlets.
W ill you honour my warranty?
Yes. Holden will continue to honour all existing warranties.
For how long will Holden provide spare parts?
Holden will provide existing Holden customers aftersales support for at least 10 years, including warranty, service, spare parts and any required recall or field actions.
How far will I need to travel to get my car serviced in future?
Holden will establish a national aftersales network. All current Holden dealers will be offered the opportunity to transition to Holden authorised service outlets.
What happens if there is a vehicle recall?
As required, Holden and its aftersales network will also continue to handle any recalls or safety-related issues if they arise, working with the appropriate governmental agencies.
I just bought a Holden, can I return it or get compensation?
We stand by our products and Holden owners will continue to be supported by a national aftersales network for at least 10 years. Customers can be assured that Holden will honour all warranties and servicing agreements, as well as providing spare parts, repair, service and any required recall or field actions.
Can I still buy a new Holden?
Yes, Holden Dealerships still have a range of new, demonstrator and used vehicles available for sale. If you are interested, you should contact your local Dealer while stock lasts.
General Questions
When will Holden close?
We are committed to looking after existing Holden customers – and our plan is to provide aftersales support for at least 10 years. We will work closely with our dealers and customers around the appropriate timing to cease sales in Australia and New Zealand.
What parts of the Holden operation are impacted by this decision?
The National Sales Company; Design, Engineering, Maven, Holden Financial Services. We will retain a team to support our aftersales operation.
Wouldn’t it have been better to close Holden when local manufacturing ended?
We believed at the time that Holden could continue as a full-line importer.
What happens to Lang Lang Proving Ground?
We will explore options around the Lang Lang Proving Ground.
What happens to HSV?
We plan to focus our growth strategies in these markets on the specialty vehicles business and plan to immediately begin work with our partner on that focus.
What happens to Holden’s collection of historic vehicles, vehicles of national significance?
We will preserve key heritage vehicles and are working through plans with GM and local partners and institutions.
Is Corvette still coming to Australia and New Zealand?
We will work through this and share information in the coming months.
What is the future of Holden in Supercar racing?
We will begin discussions with the organisers of Supercars and Red Bull Holden Racing Team. We will update you on these discussions at the appropriate time.
Will Holden continue to sponsor Red Bull Holden Racing Team Racing?
We are aware of our commitment and we will work through with Red Bull Holden Racing Team the implications of this decision.
Svend
> pip bip - choose Corrour
02/16/2020 at 21:52 |
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I know even Stevie Wonder saw it coming, but that fast.
Is GM just changing the name to a U.S. GM brand and killing off the Holden name or is that it for GM as a whole for Australia.
not for canada - australian in disguise
> pip bip - choose Corrour
02/16/2020 at 21:58 |
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It wasn’t exactly unexpected, but it’s still weird that Holden straight up won’t exist in a couple of years now. I thought they would just parade the brand around as a corpse making rebadged Chevys for a few decades.
Goodness knows how long GM have left in North America. The trucks do sell, but they’re pretty much the only things that do sell. Funny how Canada used to be overwhelmingly dominated by GM and they managed to get rid of all that good will in such a short amount of time, and did it even quicker in Australia.
Fuck GM. Fuck them for closing Oshawa, fuck them for closing their plants in Australia, fuck them for closing all those plants in the US. And most of all, fuck them for getting complacent for 50 years and cutting every single cost possible and stifling genuinely good ideas and turning them into garbage, and at the same time treating their workforce like shit.
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facw
> Svend
02/16/2020 at 22:39 |
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Sounds like the end, aside from possibly some specialty imports (which seem unlikely to be continued after the next refresh cycle) . They just don’t want to be involved in selling RHD vehicles. They don’t have much presence in the UK, Japan, or India, which leaves a pretty sparse market otherwise. I don’t really buy that developing for RHD markets should really be much extra cost, but they’ve clearly decided that they don’t think it is worthwhile for them.
gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
> facw
02/16/2020 at 22:51 |
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40 years ago I would agree, but think of how much HVAC, airbag, steering column are all crammed in under there. Then you have the engine bay. It shouldn’t be that hard to mirror, but then you have to run the line and make all the unique tooling.
DipodomysDeserti
> pip bip - choose Corrour
02/16/2020 at 23:20 |
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ranwhenparked
> facw
02/17/2020 at 00:24 |
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GM already sold Vauxhall and withdrew from India and Malaysia, so Australia and New Zealand are basic their only remaining RHD markets. There's no economies of scale left for them.
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pip bip - choose Corrour
> SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media
02/17/2020 at 02:19 |
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foo idea at this stage, Holden are yet to say
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pip bip - choose Corrour
> facw
02/17/2020 at 02:20 |
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they live.......for now
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pip bip - choose Corrour
> facw
02/17/2020 at 02:41 |
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all the costs of tooling and crash testing, clearly don’t add up to volume expected to be sold i guess